Both are International keynote speakers John Sanei & Erik Kruger. They are thoughtleaders that have a podcast called “The Expansive Podcast”.

The Expansive podcast helps thousands of individuals and organisations reframe their focus and redefine success, the podcast listeners are well-established and in high managerial positions within the working force.

Award-winning podcast also discuss working across generations in the modern workplace, the changing nature of leaderships and other topics.